The World is Coming to an End! . . . Says . . . Stephen Hawking?!?

Okay, this isn’t exactly late-breaking news, but it’s too good to pass up!

Christians have been predicting the end of the world for, oh, about 2,000 years now.

Science fiction writers have been creating doomsday scenarios for over a century.

Stephen Hawking

Stephen Hawking

Scientists respond that these things just aren’t going to happen. The world is going to keep turning for several billion years to come, they say, and the universe will last even longer.

So I couldn’t help but chuckle when I heard that Stephen Hawking, one of the most famous scientists in the world, has his own doomsday scenario. And he says it could come at any time, with no warning.

The “God particle” could destroy the universe!

Yeah, I laughed, too!

Evangelical Christians think that God is going to destroy heaven and earth, and create new ones in their place. It’s going to happen any day now!

Serious scientists would never believe such a ridiculous thing.

Nope. For physicists, it’s not God, but the God particle that could destroy the universe any day now!

Okay, okay, scientists don’t like the name “God particle.” They prefer to call it the Higgs boson.

Stephen Hawking bet fellow physicist Gordon Kane $100 that the Higgs boson didn’t exist.

He lost.

And in a book of his lectures published about a year ago, titled Starmus, he got his revenge: The Higgs field, which is associated with the Higgs boson, could destroy the universe! So you can keep your hundred bucks, Gordon Kane!

In the preface to his book Hawking says:

The Higgs potential has the worrisome feature that it might become metastable at energies above 100 [billion] gigaelectronvolts (GeV). This could mean that the universe could undergo catastrophic vacuum decay, with a bubble of the true vacuum expanding at the speed of light. This could happen at any time and we wouldn’t see it coming.

In other words, it’s possible that the field associated with this recently discovered particle could suddenly start wiping out all matter in a bubble that would expand so fast that there would be no warning. Suddenly our world and everything in it would just vanish into nothingness.

For more on this possibility, see these articles:

The universe isn’t going away any time soon

The End Is At Hand

The World is Coming to an End!

Now, before you sell everything and buy a fancy red sports car so that you can go out with a bang, not every scientist agrees that the universe might vanish at any instant.

Even Stephen Hawking thinks that if it does happen, it’s not likely to happen for billions and billions of years.

Other scientists don’t think it will happen at all. The conditions that could produce such an event, they say, existed in the early universe. Yet here we are! And, they say, there are events taking place all around the universe right now that could have triggered such an event. Yet here we are!

Many scientists believe that it won’t happen because there are forces and phenomena that we still don’t fully understand that are keeping the universe stable. Perhaps it’s that mysterious dark matter. Perhaps it’s antimatter. Or perhaps it’s something else that we haven’t even discovered yet. But if the universe has managed to remain stable for this long, they reason, it’s likely that something is holding it all together, and that it’s not likely to go Pop! now or in the future.

So keep your day job, don’t run to the storm shelter, and don’t cash in your stocks and bonds just yet. It seems that this world of ours is a tough old beast, and isn’t going away any time soon.

And what about those Christians who say the world is coming to an end?

I wouldn’t listen to them, either.

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Lee Woofenden is an ordained minister, writer, editor, translator, and teacher. He enjoys taking spiritual insights from the Bible and the writings of Emanuel Swedenborg and putting them into plain English as guides for everyday life.

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17 comments on “The World is Coming to an End! . . . Says . . . Stephen Hawking?!?
  1. abhin33t says:

    Hi Lee!

    It’s heartwarming to read your blog. Your perspective on things is refreshingly thoughtful. I don’t wish to be rude, but I’ve never had good expectations from religious folks with regards to logic and reason. In my own homeland, god-men are often the furthest from god really. Hence my prejudices have always got the best of me in all matters religious.

    But after reading your blog, I’ve experienced great solace. I feel happy to have met a sensible and enlightened mind as yourself. This blog certainly reaffirmed my faith in humanity.

    As far as my own religious views are concerned, I’m not so sure where to really affirm. I can be called an agnostic, or rather somebody in dilemma. I simply can’t believe the fairy tales of our ancient texts, yet I do respect their tennets of virtues (not those that we clearly know to be gender biased though).

    I have a troubled mind really. With pressures to perform academically and excel in life, along with other family and worrying health concerns (despite the fact that I endeavour to remain physically active), I’m often pushed to the extremes at times. With so much disparity in circumstances, wealth and efforts over output of those around me and myself, I’m inclined to not believe in someone who’s out there looking over everyone. Otherwise, how would he answer to all the tribulations I’ve had to endure and of those who’ve experienced even worse?

    I’m a strong believer in compassion though. I trust that people can be their best if loved in the same light as we would convey to perhaps someone dear to us. But I’m really troubled by many worldly concerns as the ‘unfairness’ of beauty (I read your blog, infact it was that very post that brought me here. Certainly happy to have stumbled upon it), of physical health that people take for granted while others really struggle with and how attraction is such a superficial affair really. Also, I usually have a hard time dealing with abrasive/hurtful behaviour from others. I may not get disturbed, but they all do remain in my mind all the same. That is one of my weaknesses that I’ve been trying to understand.

    I do believe spirituality is a ‘fair’ experience. It’s depth is purely a product of one’s own willingness to delve deeper. But I struggle to attain it.

    I wish for a calm and focused mind, a strong will and success in my actions. I have practised them to a great degree in my life. But now, I wish to attain them in absolute totality. Can you help me out please?

    And thank you for the blog. I appreciate your thoughts and insights into life.

    ~Abhineet Saxena

    • Lee says:

      Hi Abhineet,

      Thanks for your thoughtful comments, and your kind words. I am glad that my thoughts expressed here have given you some solace, and perhaps even hope for the spiritual side of humanity. I do aim to provide a more sensible, rational, and spiritual view of religion and life than is found in much of organized religion today, across the many different faiths of the world. I do believe that God is reaching out to us through the various religions (see If there’s One God, Why All the Different Religions?). Unfortunately, we confused humans have made an awful mess of a lot of what God has said to us.

      Though I do think a belief in a loving, wise, and powerful God is very helpful to our life as human beings in this world, I have come to think that even for those who don’t believe in God, or aren’t sure whether there is or isn’t a God, a belief in love, wisdom, and the power of kindness to others is a kind of belief in God because it is a belief in the qualities of God. (See: Do Atheists Go to Heaven?) So I would encourage you to hold onto your love for human compassion, dignity, equality, and all the other virtues of human life, while keeping your mind open to the possibility that there is a God who is the origin of everything good, true, and loving that we experience and express to one another.

      As for attaining calm, focus, strength of will, and success in all totality . . . well, that is a wonderful goal because it is one that we can always strive for, and continually work for. Another way of saying this is that we will never achieve the absolute totality of things, because that exists only in the mind and heart of God. And yet, we can always be traveling toward that totality, and attaining more and more of it in our lives.

      Yet another way of saying this is that life is a journey that continues as long as we have life—which I believe is forever. We can achieve many good and wonderful things. And yet, there will always be further to go, and more to achieve. Even when material desires and achievements lose their appeal, there are infinite spiritual achievements that still await us. And by that I mean achievements of mutual love and understanding, insight and inspiration, learning and growing as human beings in community with one another.

      So if you find that you have not achieved everything you envision, don’t consider that a lack or a failure. Consider it a challenge and a call to continually move forward in the best directions that your mind can conceive. And as you make that journey, you will find many joys and satisfactions along the way that will refresh your mind and heart and keep you moving forward.

      And yes, there will be many struggles and challenges, and even pain and heartbreak. These are the things that test and refine our souls, and bring us face to face with the ultimate questions of life. They are the times in which we make the deep and difficult choices that turn us in one direction or the other, upward toward the light or down toward the darkness, depending on whether we hold on to hope and goodness, or let despair and darkness overtake us. And they are the times we are at our most human. If we are able to face them and ride them through, we gain greater depth, compassion, and understanding both for ourselves and for our fellow human beings. For more on why God allows such things to happen to us, see: If God is Love, Why all the Pain and Suffering?

      If you have further questions, I invite you to search the site for articles that may help, or to leave further comments and questions. You have your whole life ahead of you. And you are clearly a thoughtful and heartfelt person. I do think you will do good things with your life, even if you do have to face your share of struggle and doubt. That’s simply part of the human condition here on earth.

  2. Reading 2 Peter 3 refers to the worlds ends, as it is burn barren upon Gods final judgement: by fire. Two examples of “judgement” prior are used as examples, Noah, how the world was destroyed by water…the next was Lot and Sodoms destruction by fire and brimstone. Each time the believer and their families escaped Gods wrath. Likewise prior earth being destroyed, Believers will be taken up into the “clouds” to meet Christ in the air.

    • Lee says:

      Hi Chris,

      Thanks for stopping by, and for your thoughts.

      My belief is that many of these things were never meant to be taken literally. Christ often spoke in parables, and he encouraged his followers to pay attention to the spirit of his words rather than getting hung up on the “flesh” (or literal meaning) of his words:

      “It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.” (John 6:63)

      For more on this in relation to a future Judgment Day, please see my article: Is the World Coming to an End? What about the Second Coming?

  3. Lee thank you for responding… I do understand certain stories set in the scriptures that exemplify greater spiritual meaning – but in 2 Peter 3, he gives us historic “literal” examples of previous judgements of God. So this logically (and spiritually) tells us that this is not metaphoric nor a parable. That it is prophetic and will come to pass, as explained by the Holy Spirit through Peter. Again, the reference to earlier judgements are given literally to reinforce this prophesy.

  4. Rod says:

    Hi Lee. In case the physical universe came to an end, would that mean that there would be no more new people in heaven? Like, “ok guys, the universe is gone, so everyone who could possibly be here in heaven is already here. We’ll close the gates now!” I’d like to hear your thoughts about the consequences in the spiritual world of a possible death of the material universe. Thanks!

    • Lee says:

      Hi Rod,

      First of all, the ultimate fate of the universe is a matter of debate among scientists. And just when a consensus starts to emerge, new studies suggest that the consensus might be wrong. In fact, just in the past day or two, a paper came out challenging the generally accepted view that the universe is “flat,” meaning that it will continue to expand forever and eventually become cold, dark and lifeless, and suggesting instead that the universe may be “closed,” meaning that it will eventually contract back together in a “big crunch” that could lead to a new “big bang” and the beginning of a whole new universe. See:

      Astronomers think the universe is a sphere. Here’s why that claim is so controversial

      Other astronomers dispute this new claim that the universe is most likely closed. And the debate continues. For the possibilities contemplated by scientists, see Wikipedia -> Ultimate fate of the universe.

      What this means is that we really don’t know whether the universe will come to an end. We also don’t know whether ours is the only universe, or whether there are other universes out there, forming a “multiverse.”

      Personally, I lean toward the “cyclic model” or “oscillating universe” theory, in which there is a whole series of universes, one after the other. This accords with the general pattern of nature, which is full of cycles of birth, life, death, and rebirth. However, I’m not a physicist, so I’ll just have to wait and see whether the scientists come to any more definite conclusion about the ultimate nature and fate of the physical universe during my lifetime.

      Given all that, I’m loath to speculate on what will happen in heaven if there comes a time when there are no more new people, and the gates are closed. Personally, I doubt that will ever happen. But if it does, I presume that the people in heaven will continue to enjoy their life with the people who are there. After all, they are already with the people they are closest to, even if no more new people come along. And they continue to learn and grow in knowledge, understanding, and wisdom to eternity. This means that their lives are not static even if there isn’t a new influx of people happening in their communities. I presume that there are many communities of people in heaven from bygone eras that haven’t had any new residents in hundreds or even thousands of years by earth measurements. And yet, they can still have a good, happy, and growing life with the people of their “closed” community.

      But my inclination is to think that God will continue to provide new people for heaven to eternity, even if scientifically we don’t currently have a clear idea of the ultimate fate of the physical universe in which we happen to live.

  5. Rod says:

    Either way I think it will all turn out for the best according to God’s providence and goodness. Thank you, Lee.

  6. AJ749 says:

    Hi Lee following on from the previous comments on this article regarding the fate of the universe, if you look at the holographic universe theory which Stephen hawking changed his mind to believing to be true. Then we need not fear the end of the universe as the theory, swedenborg and The bible all state the source (God) is constantly renewing amd creating the universe at every moment in time so although the universe will expand and various parts of it will die off as is nature there will always be a new areas of the universe and new planets , new societys and new heavens . I think that make sense aha

    • Lee says:

      Hi AJ749,

      What you are describing sounds a bit like the “steady-state model,” in which new matter is continually being created to fill in the space made by the expanding universe. However, this theory is now almost universally rejected by cosmologists. Personally, I think an “oscillating universe” is more likely. In nature we don’t see brand new animals and plants continually being created from nothing, but rather the existing plants and animals continually reproducing themselves in an ongoing birth and death cycle—which also involves evolutionary development over long time periods. It makes sense to me that the physical universe would work the same way on the large scale.

      As for the holographic universe theory, I think that what’s behind it is the reality (from a Swedenborgian perspective) that the material universe is a “projection” of the spiritual universe rather than something that subsists on its own. But I put “projection” in quotes because it is really an expression rather than a mere projection. In other words, I do believe that the physical universe is objectively real, and not just a projection. But its continued existence depends upon a continual inflow of energy from God via the spiritual world. This, I suspect, looks like a holographic universe to scientists who dig deep into the structure of the physical universe.

      However, I do agree that the effect of the ongoing generations of people here in the material universe results in continual creation of new heavens (really, new areas of heaven) and new communities within the various heavens in the spiritual world. The spiritual world is not subject to birth and death cycles in a “biological” way, as the physical universe is. Its growth is additive rather than cyclical. However, angels do also go through cycles analogous to our cycles of day and night, work week and sabbath, seasons of the year, and so on. It’s just that these cycles don’t involve “physical” birth and death, but rather spiritual cycles of emptying out or “dying” of old thoughts and feelings that are no longer the best possible for them, followed by growth via the “birth” of new love and wisdom.

  7. K says:

    Didn’t Swedenborg say that the spiritual is somehow dependent on the physical? If so, and if the universe evolves according to scientific theory where there’s eventually the Dark Era (just photons and electrons in an ever-expanding void), could that change so Heaven doesn’t end somehow just because the physical is a nearly empty void?

    Maybe future spirits in the distant, distant future (like over 10^10^50 years from now) could come from “Boltzmann brains”?

    • Lee says:

      Hi K,

      Yes, Swedenborg did say that the spiritual world rests on the physical world, and is therefore “dependent” on it in the sense that it needs something underneath or around it to keep it in its proper form, akin to the skin keeping the body together.

      Though this makes sense to me logically and by analogy, I don’t have a clear practical sense of why spirit and angels in the spiritual world would need a connection with people on earth. It makes more sense to me that people on earth need angels and spirits around them, because we are alive due to our spirit, and not due to our body, meaning that we need a spiritual environment to keep our spirit alive just as our body needs a physical environment to keep our body alive.

      Swedenborg does, however, make the strange statement that when we die, though we leave our body behind and continue to live in our spirit, and in our spiritual body, we do take with us a “border around it made of the finest substances in nature” (True Christianity #103). Apparently we retain something of nature even when we are living in the spiritual world. And since it is a “border,” it has to do with keeping everything in our spirit contained so that it doesn’t just spill out into its surroundings. If this is the case, then angels and spirits are in some way dependent “physically” on there still being something of the material world in existence.

      At any rate, as for your question, I’ve thought about this also. Mind you, I’m not terribly worried about it. I figure God has it figured out, even if it bends our brain. But so far I’ve come up with three possibilities:

      1. Current science is wrong. The physical universe will continue to produce habitable planets forever.
      2. Swedenborg is wrong. Angels and spirits are not ultimately dependent upon the existence of a functioning (as in, habitable) physical universe.
      3. Our universe is not the only one. Whenever our universe ceases to be able to support human (self-aware, free, and rational) life, other inhabited universes will take over.

      This last possibility is based on a passage I can’t seem to locate at the moment in which Swedenborg says that if a planet were to cease to exist, the spirits from that planet would be transferred to another planet, and associated with it, so that their connection with the physical world and its people would not be lost.

      Perhaps there are other possibilities that I haven’t thought of.

      As for Boltzmann brains, such a thing, if it ever existed in reality, would be so rare as to be unlikely to form a sufficient basis and connection even for the billions of people that will inhabit the spiritual world from our planet alone, let alone for the inhabitants of all inhabited planets in the universe.

      If the universe is cyclical, expanding from a singularity, collapsing back to a singularity, and then expanding again in an endless cycle, then perhaps the spiritual world would have to go into a sort of hibernation in between cycles. But since the uninhabitable part of the timeline seems much longer than the habitable part, it seems unlikely to me that God would design things that way.

      At any rate, it’s an interesting question to ponder, even if it’s not the most immediate and practical issue for the life we’re living right now.

      • K says:

        Since the spiritual is beyond spacetime, maybe there’s no 1:1 correspondence between time in the physical and changes of state in the spiritual, so if there is 10^10^10^56+ years of the Dark Era, maybe it’s not so long in the spiritual?

        Also how did Swedenborg come to the erroneous conclusion that all worlds are inhabited, or the possibly erroneous conclusion that the spiritual “depends” on the physical? Who told him such?

        And while the ultimate fate of the universe is not immediate and practical, it is inevitable, and the spiritual is beyond spacetime.

        Finally, as for that “border around it made of the finest substances in nature”, maybe that could be spacetime itself, as spacetime is now thought of like a substance. Stuff like photons, leptons, and quarks are subject to spacetime limits and entropy.

        • Lee says:

          Hi K,

          There does seem to be a correlation between spiritual “time” and physical spacetime. People die at a particular time on this earth, and then they wake up in the spiritual world. This happens in the same sequence in the spiritual world as it does in the material world. If a husband dies first, and his wife later, he will arrive in the spiritual world first, he will wait for her there, and she will arrive later. However, for her fixed days weeks, and years will be passing, whereas for him there will be no sense of time, but only of passing events and experiences. I think this is hard for us earthlings to grasp until we actually experience it either by having a near-death experience or by dying and going to the spiritual world.

          Having said that, if there is no more life in the material universe, or an unimaginably long time period in which there is no life, there would be no such correlation between the spiritual and the physical. To use that example, no one would be dying, there would be no new spirits arriving in the spiritual world, and therefore nothing in the experience of spirits living there to relate their experiences to events in the physical world.

          It is therefore possible that such a time period in the material universe wouldn’t even register in the spiritual world. Perhaps the entire spiritual world would drift off to sleep, and when everyone woke up the next morning, 10^10^10^56+ years would have passed in the physical universe, and a whole new period of life would be starting. I think that’s the same as what you’re saying.

          I’m not saying I think this is what actually happens. I really don’t know. But it is fun to think about.

        • Lee says:

          Hi K,

          On the question of how Swedenborg came to the erroneous conclusion that all worlds are inhabited, it was by rational thought based on the scientific knowledge of the day. Here’s what he says about this in Other Planets (aka Earths in the Universe):

          I have talked with spirits from our earth about this a number of times. We concluded that anyone with a capable mind can see, on the basis of things that are well known, that there must be many planets and they must have people on them. That is, we can determine on rational grounds that bodies as large as the planets—and some of them are significantly larger than our own—are not uninhabited lumps created only to be carried along on a wandering course around the Sun and shed their feeble light for the benefit of just one planet. Their function must be more worthwhile than this.

          If we believe, as everyone should, that the Divine created the universe for the sole purpose of bringing humankind into being as the source of heaven (because humankind is the seedbed of heaven), then we cannot help but believe that wherever there is a planet there must be people on it. (Other Planets #3)

          “Aha!” some Swedenborgians will say, “He heard it in the spiritual world! Therefore it must be correct! This is part of the doctrine of the church!”

          No. Swedenborg specifically said in True Christianity #779, “I also testify that ever since the first day of this calling, I have accepted nothing regarding the teachings of this church from any angel; what I have received has come from the Lord alone while I was reading the Word.” The Latin word here translated “the teachings” is doctrina. Something that Swedenborg talked over with angels is not part of the doctrine of the New Church.

          His words make it crystal clear that this is a rationally deduced conclusion based on available evidence:”We concluded that anyone with a capable mind can see, on the basis of things that are well known . . . . That is, we can determine on rational grounds . . . .”

          Based on things that were “well known” in Swedenborg’s day—i.e., based on available scientific knowledge about the cosmos—the only way a planet could serve God’s intention in creating the universe—which was “for the sole purpose of bringing humankind into being as the source of heaven”—was to serve as a home for human life on that planet. Otherwise planets would be “uninhabited lumps created only to be carried along on a wandering course around the Sun and shed their feeble light for the benefit of just one planet.”

          Therefore, on rational grounds based on what was known about the universe at the time, every planet must have humans on it.

          Notice that Swedenborg did not say that the Lord told him this. He didn’t even say that angels told him this, or that it was “told to him from heaven.” He said that it was a result of rational thought and rational conversation with angels. And as I’ve said a number of times, including in the above article, angels’ scientific knowledge is no more advanced than the scientific knowledge of people on earth at the time.

          Today, cosmological knowledge has advanced whole orders of magnitude since the 18th century. Even our most recent scientific cargo from another world, the samples from the asteroid Bennu brought back by the OSIRIS-REx mission, have shown that this common type of asteroid is rich in clays that contain water and organic compounds (these are carbon-based chemical compounds, not life as some of the clickbait titles try to make people think) that were a likely source of the water and organic compounds in earth’s crust that made life possible on our planet. After its initial formation, Earth was a barren rock. But a billion or so years of being bombarded by such asteroids seeded it with the materials required for life to develop on it.

          This is just one of many ways in which other worlds are not mere “uninhabited lumps created only to be carried along on a wandering course around the Sun and shed their feeble light for the benefit of just one planet.”

          Another way they are not is that gas giants such as Jupiter and Saturn are vast chemical laboratories forming the complex organic molecules and other compounds required by life. Even if no life develops in that particular solar system, when its star comes to the end of its active period of creating energy through fusion, it will blast much of the material of its planets out into space, seeding the surrounding space with the compounds needed for life to form on future generations of planets. A significant part of that material will end out in asteroids that bombard potentially habitable planets, so that some of them become actually habitable, and develop complex ecosystems capable of supporting human life.

          If we’ve learned anything at all in the past century or two of studying the physical universe, it’s that forming environments capable of supporting advanced life is an incredibly complex and energy-intensive thing. It’s not just a matter of popping off a planet and putting life on it. Two or three generations of stars and solar systems forming, dying, and seeding the surrounding region with heavier and more complex elements and molecules are likely required before it is even possible for a planet to develop that could support life. Before that, the required elements and compounds would not exist in sufficient quantities. This is something that takes billions of years, not six thousand years.

          But Swedenborg did not have access to any of this knowledge because in his day the science of cosmology was in its infancy. It is therefore not surprising that reasoning based on the rather scant knowledge available both to him and to the angels he was talking to alike, it seemed an open-and-shut case that every planet, and even every moon, must have human life on it.

          However, to my 21st century eyes, what is most striking is the vast time and processes and materials and developments that are required to produce even a single planet—ours—capable of supporting human life.

          But what is all that vastness to God, who is infinite? If it were necessary to create a trillion trillion universes the size of ours to produce a single planet capable of supporting life, that would be no greater task for God than creating life in a teaspoon full of water.

          Another way of saying this is that the vast processes required to produce us on this earth is, to me, an indication of the infinite love God has for us, and how precious we are in God’s eyes.

        • Lee says:

          Hi K,

          About how Swedenborg concluded that the spiritual depends upon the physical, that’s a much more complex question. And in this case, despite my lack of full understanding of why this should be the case, I’m inclined to think he is right. After all, God created the universe as a system, not as unrelated parts. And as a system, all of its parts are needed to make the whole.

          At minimum, the physical world is required to produce new human beings to populate the spiritual world. This, according to Swedenborg, is the whole purpose of the material world. So in that way, the spiritual world does depend upon the physical world. Without humans to inhabit it, the spiritual world would be empty and meaningless. Even the environment of the spiritual world is a reflection of the minds and hearts of the people who inhabit it.

          Swedenborg uses the analogy of a house on its foundation to illustrate how the physical world is required as a basis for the spiritual world. He also uses the analogy of the skin compared to all the parts and organs it contains. Something is required to provide a foundation for the spiritual world, and to hold it together as a unit. That something is apparently the physical universe.

        • Lee says:

          Hi K,

          As to whether the “border around it made of the finest substances in nature” is spacetime itself, that’s a bit beyond my scientific pay grade. But from what I understand, spacetime can’t exist unless there is some form of matter in it, whether in the form of mass or in the form of energy. So I tend to think that indeed it is the finest substances in nature.

          Swedenborg did not state exactly what this limbus consists of. Even if he had, since his theory of the elemental building blocks of nature was quite different from present-day molecular, atomic, and subatomic physics, we might still not know what this limbus consists of.

          However, Swedenborg did go into a little more detail on this subject in a few other passages. First, here is the rest of his statement about this in True Christianity #103. I should mention that I have come to believe that the Aristotelian idea that the soul comes from the father and the body from the mother, which Swedenborg accepted as the “settled science” of his day, cannot be retained based on today’s greater knowledge of genetics, knowing as we do that offspring receive a nearly equal complement of genetic material both from the father and from the mother. But here goes:

          To these points I will attach the following secret.

          The soul we get from our father is our true self. The body we get from our mother is part of us but is not our true self. It is only something that clothes us, woven out of substances belonging to the physical world. Our soul is woven out of substances belonging to the spiritual world. After death we put off the physical component we acquired from our mother but keep the spiritual component we acquired from our father, along with a border around it made of the finest substances in nature. For those of us who go to heaven this border is at the bottom and the spiritual part of us is above it. For those of us who go to hell the border is at the top and the spiritual part of us is below it. This border allows angelic people to speak from heaven and say what is good and true. It allows devilish people to speak from hell when they speak from their hearts, and to seem to speak from heaven when they speak with their lips, the latter being what they do in public and the former what they do at home. (True Christianity #103:1)

          Click the link on the number if you want to read the entire section.

          There is a similar statement in Divine Love and Wisdom:

          We can also see from what has been said that the human mind is the essential person. The very first impulse toward the human form, or the essential human form, complete in all detail, comes from its primary forms, extended from the brain through its nerves, as already explained [366].

          This is the form we attain after death, the form we call a spirit or an angel, a form that is an absolutely complete person, but a spiritual one. The material form that was added on the outside in the world is not the human form in its own right, but is derived from that form, added on the outside so that we can function usefully in the physical world. It also provides us with a stable vessel for our spiritual natures, a vessel drawn from the purer substances of this world, that we take with us [after death] in order to carry on and continue our lives.

          It is an item of angelic wisdom that the human mind, both in a general way and in every least detail, is in a constant effort toward the human form because God is human. (Divine Love and Wisdom #388)

          Swedenborg had gone into a little more detail earlier in Divine Love and Wisdom:

          (e) Our earthly mind is made up of both spiritual substances and earthly substances. Our thinking results from the spiritual substances and not from the earthly substances. These latter substances fade away when we die, but the spiritual substances do not. So when we become spirits or angels after death, the same mind is still there in the form it had in the world. (f) The earthly substances of our minds (which fade away after death, as I have just noted) form the skinlike covering of the spiritual bodies we inhabit as spirits and angels. It is by means of this covering, taken from the earthly world, that our spiritual bodies have their stability, the earthly substance being the outermost vessel. This is why there is no angel or spirit who was not born human. (Divine Love and Wisdom #257)

          How these substances both “fade away” (Latin: recedunt) and form a skin is likewise beyond my pay grade.

          But his fullest discussion is in his unpublished draft on Divine Wisdom. It is quite fascinating. In exists only in an older English translation:

          [3] [7] [111.] (3) Nor, except in man, can the angelic mind be procreated, and, by means of procreations, be multiplied. Anyone acquainted with the nature of substances in the spiritual world, and, in comparison, the nature of material substances in the natural world, can easily see that there does not take place, nor could there take place, any procreation of angelic minds except in, and from out of, those who dwell in the ultimate (or “outermost”) work of creation, the earth. As, however, the nature of substances in the spiritual world as compared with material substances in the natural world is not known [it must be described].

          Substances in the spiritual world have all the appearance of being material: they are not material, however, and, not being material, they do not stay constant; they are correspondents of the affections of angels, continuing as long as the affections, or the angels, are present, and disappearing when they cease to be present. The same would be the case with angels if they were to be created in that world. But in addition to this, there does not take place with angels, nor could there take place with them, any other procreating and resultant multiplying than a spiritual one, and this is a procreating and multiplying of love and wisdom, such as takes place also in the souls of men who are being born anew or regenerated. In the natural world, on the other hand, there are material substances by means of which, and out of which, procreations, and afterwards the forming of them, are possible; thus, there can be a multiplying of human beings, and thereby of angels.

          [4] [8] [112.] (4) It is owing to spirits and angels having been men, that they are able to continue existing and to live for ever. This is because the angel or spirit, in virtue of his having been first born a human being on earth, has that in him which continues to exist, for he brings with him out of the inmost things of Nature a medium between the spiritual and the natural, which medium provides him with termination, so that he may be continuously existent and permanently himself. Owing to this, he possesses something that has relation with things in Nature, and also something corresponding to them. By means of this also, spirits and angels can be adjoined and conjoined to mankind: for conjunction exists, and where there is conjunction, there must also be a medium; that there is such a medium, angels well know, but because it is out of the inmost things of Nature, and the words of languages are from its ultimates, it can only be described by means of abstract things. From these things it now follows that the angelic heaven, which was the end-in-view of creation, could not otherwise come into being; thus, that mankind is its seminary and source of supply. (Divine Wisdom #8:7–8)

          As far as I know, this is everything Swedenborg says about the limbus in his theological writings. Having such a “border of the finest things of nature” seems to be a necessity for angels to remain constant in their existence in the spiritual world rather than coming into and out of existence as other things in the spiritual world do based on the thoughts and feelings of the angels in the area.

          Presumably the idea is that nature itself must continue to exist for the “border of the finest things of nature” to continue to exist, and thus for angels to continue to have a constant and eternal existence rather than an ephemeral one as other things in the spiritual world do.

          How this relates to the current scientific theory that the physical universe will end in heat death, I do not know.

          However, questions such as this help to convince me that we humans will never run out of things to think about and try to figure out, no matter how many billions and trillions of “years” have gone by in our eternal life in the spiritual world.

          Part of my faith is that even though I don’t have it all figured out, God does. In this, I’m not all that different from scientists who have great faith that there are good scientific answers to questions that currently we don’t even have scientific instruments that are powerful enough to investigate.

          But back to the question, apparently even the Big Bag was supposed to somehow have come out of the primordial quantum field. Perhaps the quantum field itself is “the finest things of nature,” which precede and produce all others, including all the physical objects around us that we can see and touch. But I tend to think that “the finest substance of nature” are a little more solid and stable than quantum fields. They are, after all, supposed to be something that gives fixity to the spirits they contain as a border.

What do you think?

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