Beyonce and Jay-Z performing together
Hollywood marriages are not known for their longevity. But not all celebrities get it wrong. Though some stars’ marriages last only a few years . . . or months, others’ marriages last fifty years or more.
What’s the secret? Why do some celebrity marriages go the distance, while others quickly crash and burn?
Various theories have been put forward for short-lived “Hollywood marriages”:
- Showbiz marriages are all about publicity, glitz, and glamor
- Celebrities are spoiled, egotistical overgrown children
- Celebrities are promiscuous and unfaithful
- Living in the spotlight puts tremendous pressure on a marriage
For the celebrity marriages that are short-lived, there may be some truth to these theories. However, there are also deeper factors at work—factors that affect all marriages, not just celebrity marriages.
Let’s take a look at just one of those factors . . . but a very important one:
How is the relationship formed in the first place? What stages does it go through on the way to marriage?
That’s where Beyoncé and Jay-Z have a secret to share.
Love, Beyoncé and Jay-Z style
Beyoncé (Knowles) and Jay-Z (Shawn Carter) are known for being a close, happy, and solid couple. They are also known for being a very secretive couple. They spent years dodging questions from the media about their relationship. Far from the stereotypical glitzy celebrity wedding splashed across the tabloids, they were married quietly in April of 2008 in an unannounced private ceremony attended only by family and close friends. Beyoncé and Jay-Z have been a couple for ten years, and married for five. But little has been known about their private life together.
Recently, they have opened up a little more about their relationship. In an interview with Oprah Winfrey this February, Beyoncé spoke about what her marriage to Jay-Z means to her, and how the two of them began their relationship:
About half a minute into this clip, Beyoncé says:
We were friends first, for a year and a half, before we went on any date . . . on the phone for a year and a half. And that foundation is so important in a relationship. And just to have someone that you just like, you know, is so important. And someone that is honest.
“We were friends first,” she said, “for a year and a half, before we went on any date.”
Now that is not your typical “Hollywood marriage.”
In fact, it’s completely at odds with popular scenes of romantic love: a couple falls madly, passionately in love at first sight, jumps into bed together . . . and eventually, if the relationship sticks, starts planning a fancy wedding.
Beyoncé and Jay-Z spent a year and a half talking to each other on the phone before they even went on their first date!
And they consider that year and a half critical to the stability of their marriage.
Top-down vs. bottom-up marriage
What was happening during that year and a half of talking on the phone?
The two of them were getting to know each other. During that extended time without any physical contact, they were getting to know one another’s souls.
You see, there are two ways to build a relationship:
- From the bottom up
- From the top down
The same two ways can also be expressed as:
- From the outside in
- From the inside out
When a relationship starts with the body, and eventually (maybe) gets to the soul, that relationship is being built from the bottom up, or from the outside in. The same is true of relationships that start from externals such as money (Is he rich?) and social status.
When a relationship starts with the soul, and eventually gets to the body, that relationship is being built from the top down, or from the inside out. The same is true of relationships that start based on having common goals and values, such as a shared commitment to a particular religious faith or a shared dedication to serving humanity in a particular way.
If a relationship is built on a foundation of physical attractiveness, sex, money, and social status, it will have a completely different character than a relationship that is built on a foundation of a spiritual connection as expressed in shared beliefs, goals, and values.
Of course, most relationships do start with some sort of physical connection. Our souls communicate with one another through our bodies. So we usually have to meet and see each other before we can get to know each other’s loves and values. Even couples who meet online commonly share pictures of one another early on so that they can visualize the person they are talking to. Before Beyoncé and Jay-Z spent that year and a half talking on the phone, they had seen each other in the popular media, and had probably met in person.
The question is, where does the relationship go from there? Does it go right into a physical and sexual connection? Or does it move upward and establish a spiritual connection first?
Biology and economics: a shaky foundation for marriage
By now it seems fairly well established in our culture that money does not provide a good foundation for lasting marriage.
Yes, a certain amount of personal responsibility and dedication to earning a living is a key element in a stable relationship. It’s hard to have a happy marriage when you’re homeless.
However, if having plenty of money were a good foundation for marriage, Hollywood marriages should be famous for their longevity, not for their brevity. A quick look at the tabloids and the society pages shows that many of the rich and famous are also famous for having stormy, short-lived marriages that end in pitched battles over money, property, and custody.
It seems less established in the popular mind that biology (read: sexual attraction) isn’t a very good foundation for lasting marriage, either.
So let’s take a look at our biology.
The human animal
We’d be fooling ourselves if we didn’t recognize that sexual attraction is a powerful force in our psychology. Throughout the animal kingdom, the drive to reproduce the species can override every other instinct. The males of many species will fight to the death to achieve or maintain sexual access to females. The females will fight to the death to protect their young from predators.
Whatever superstructure of rationality and spirituality we humans may possess, physically we are animals. We humans have the same biological drives as every other animal, including the reproductive drive. We have a powerful, innate urge to find mates and have sex with them.
Wouldn’t such a powerful, deep-seated drive provide a stable foundation for a lasting marriage?
A look at the animal kingdom says no. While some species do mate for life, the reproductive instincts of most species drive them to couple only briefly with the opposite sex so that fertilization can take place. Then they go their separate ways. If the reproductive drive that rules biology were a sufficient foundation for lasting relationships, lifetime mating should be the rule, not the exception, in the animal kingdom.
However, unlike most animals—which often seem to mate quite casually and then forget all about it—we humans find sexual intercourse to be intensely pleasurable (when it is good), and seek it out for its own sake.
There are biological reasons for this as well. For a classic book arguing that all human behavior, including our complex sexual behavior, is biological and evolutionary in origin, see The Naked Ape, by Desmond Morris.
Our sexual behavior is tied in with our biology. But even the biology of sex comes from a higher, spiritual source. From a spiritual perspective, sex is intensely attractive and pleasurable for us not only because it is the means God has provided for us to reproduce ourselves, populating the earth with people and heaven with angels, but also because sex is a physical expression of the deepest and most spiritual love that can exist between two human beings.
Sex first, then marriage?
The problems come when we push spirit aside and put biology in the driver’s seat.
Sex is intensely pleasurable. Once we start, we don’t want to stop. And sex does create intense bonds between two people. When we have shared that level of intimacy with another person, it creates a connection.
But to be brutally honest, any two sexually developed human beings can have sex with each other, regardless of their inner compatibility or lack thereof. To put it bluntly, any penis can slide into any vagina.
It is possible, even easy, for us to have sex with people with whom we have nothing deeper in common. That physical intimacy can create powerful bonds between two people who really don’t belong together. And as the classic 1962 Neil Sedaka song says, “breaking up is hard to do.”
The reason sex has traditionally been considered permissible and appropriate only after a couple gets married is not because God will damn us to hell if we have sex before marriage. Technically, the commandment is against adultery. And adultery exists only if one or both partners is already married to someone else.
Rather, the traditional religious prohibition against sex before marriage entered human culture due to a recognition that relationships that jump into sex too early have two strikes against them right from the start.
Sex and physical intimacy just isn’t a very good starting point for lasting marriage. Relationships that start from the bottom (physical sex) and try to work their way up toward a deeper (spiritual) connection tend to get stuck along the way, and never make it to the top.
Then what is a good starting point?
Friendship first, then marriage
Beyonce and Jay-Z happy together
Beyoncé and Jay-Z got it right on this one: “We were friends first, for a year and a half, before we went on any date.”
Friendship is an inner connection. Usually it is based on common loves, common beliefs, and on engaging in activities together that both partners enjoy.
In other words, friendship is a spiritual connection.
Lasting marriage is founded, not on biological reproductive drives, but on an inner, spiritual union between two people. That union needs to be sought out and developed before the biological drives kick in.
Do you want to have a lasting marriage?
While there is no surefire way to achieve it (marriage is complicated!), starting out the relationship in the right order—from the top down, and from the inside out—will make a marriage much more likely to last.
Building marriage from the spiritual to the physical
First, gain some clarity about your own values, your own loves, your own beliefs. What is most important to you? What do you love and value above all else? What are your goals in life? What are your spiritual beliefs?
As these become clearer in your own mind, seek out similar beliefs, values, and goals in the people you meet and the people you date. Share your passions and ideals with them, and listen as they share theirs with you. When you find someone who expresses similar loves, similar faith, similar goals, then you have the possibility of a lasting relationship.
The important next step is to take the time needed to explore one another’s beliefs, loves, values, and goals more deeply. Take the time to find out if they are compatible not just on the surface at first glance, but right to the depths of your soul.
Don’t muddy the waters by getting too physical and jumping right into bed together. That will only cloud your judgment and cause confusion as your biological drives kick in. Spend time talking, doing enjoyable things together, getting to know one another more and more deeply.
If you find over time that you have an inner connection and a sense of oneness with each other that keeps growing without your needing to have sex to feel it, then and only then can you have confidence that yours is a true spiritual connection that can lead to a lasting marriage.
That inner connection, together with the long-term commitment and trust of marriage, will then flow from the top down, giving you a sense of inner joy and contentment even in the inevitable struggles of marriage and of life.
And your patience in letting the spiritual connection develop first will be rewarded with a depth of expression and sharing in your physical and sexual intimacies that is possible only when the two of you know and feel in your souls the deep spiritual connection that you have with one another.
Here’s how Beyoncé put it:
And about those who are in too much of a hurry:
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Lee Woofenden is an ordained minister, writer, editor, translator, and teacher. He enjoys taking spiritual insights from the Bible and the writings of Emanuel Swedenborg and putting them into plain English as guides for everyday life.
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I loved this post! I completely agree, they’ve set themselves up for a lasting commitment. I’d love to hear your thoughts on their lasting marriage (and Beyoncé’s ultimate forgiveness of Jay’s implied adultery) after “Lemonade.”
I’m new to this site and greatly enjoying reading your thoughts on religion in the “real world.” Thanks for the insights!
Hi A.R.,
Thanks for stopping by. Glad you enjoyed the article!
We can only speculate on just what went on with Jay-Z and Beyoncé. Apparently her sister was very mad at Jay-Z about something in that famous incident in the elevator a year ago. And now we’ve gotten some hints from “Lemonade.” But no real facts.
What we do know is that whatever happened, so far Beyoncé has not split up with Jay-Z—which is the usual course of events when these celebrity marriages hit a rough patch, and especially when one of them is unfaithful. We can only hope that the foundation of the marriage stands, and that whatever happened, they’re able to overcome it and move on.
If Jay-Z was unfaithful to her, that’s tough, but not impossible, to overcome. It can be overcome only if he recognizes that what he did was wrong, commits himself to never doing it again, and re-commits himself to his marriage with her. If he makes a habit of being unfaithful, the marriage is over, even if they may stay together for the sake of their daughter or for any of the other reasons that married couples sometimes stay together even when their marriage is dead.
But I hope that’s not the case. Whatever Jay-Z did (assuming he did do something wrong), I hope he’s recognized how foolish it was, and has considered what he’d be losing if he continued down that path. Then it will be up to Beyoncé to decide whether she can ever trust him again. That’s very hard once trust has been broken. But it is possible to rebuild trust over time if the one who broke the trust “repents,” to use traditional Christian language—meaning is truly sorry for what he (or she) did—and afterwards remains consistently faithful month after month and year after year. Sometimes the threat of loss of what we have is enough to make us see sense and rethink our actions and our priorities.
Once again, we don’t know what actually happened, so all of this as it may apply to Jay-Z and Beyoncé is based on speculation. Still, whatever happened, I hope their marriage sticks. They really do seem like a great couple, and good for each other. And for the sake Blue Ivy, too, I hope they are able to have a real marriage.
For more on the “repentance” side of things, please see this article: Repentance: The Unpopular Partner of Forgiveness.
Thanks again for your thoughts. I’m glad you’re enjoying our website!
Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply!
Well, he has since confirmed that he did indeed cheat on her several times. I don’t think it’s a good idea to use celebrity marriages as an example of what a good marriage should be for several reasons:
1. Much of what celebrities reveal to the public is solely for PR reasons. Jay-z and Beyonce cultivate their image very carefully for the public. I do like how they are always together as a family, and how they keep their business to themselves and there does seem to be something genuine about that. And I DO like how they appear to be raising their oldest daughter. But there is a lot I believe that we don’t see as well. That’s why you can look at the “elevator incident” as perhaps nature or the universe’s way of revealing the truth.
2. Jay-Z is a former drug-dealer who has refused to apologize for his crimes and how they have destroyed lives and black communities. He is on record as saying he did it to survive and would do it again if he had to. He is also on an old video slapping a woman around and has refused to apologize for that as well.
3. His genre of music/entertainment is full of misogyny and sexism. His wife seems ok with all this and supports and enables him. She herself also seems ok with some members of the public worshipping her almost like she is a God herself. Her photos on Instagram are evidence of this, and her fans are even called the “beehive” and they are fanatical in their support and worship of her.
So I don’t think these two are good examples because they are both of questionable moral character. In order to be that rich and successful in that type of entertainment industry you have to “sell your soul” to the devil a little bit, so to speak, because that industry puts money, status and image before God.
Hi Amanda,
Thanks for your thoughts. These are all excellent points.
There is always a risk in writing about any actual flesh-and-blood human beings and using them as examples. Not only are we all fallible, but any of us may turn back and fall into a destructive and evil life. This was a calculated risk when I wrote the above article. And if Beyoncé and Jay-Z ever get divorced, or do something really awful in a very public way, I’ll probably take it down. However, despite all of their past sins and present questionable activities, they are still together, and still working on their marriage and on their life, even if some of their actions may not be quite acceptable to you and me. They do come from a different culture and experience. It’s too easy to stand on the outside and judge when we have not walked in their shoes.
So for now I’m leaving the article up, recognizing that Beyoncé and Jay-Z, like the rest of us, are works in progress. The end of their story has not yet been written. Though I don’t find all of the themes of their music congenial to my own tastes and outlook, they do also have songs that convey good and needed messages to many people who would not listen to such messages from the likes of you and me. And so, as with the rest of us, God can do good through these two flawed human beings. There are no perfect people for God to use in doing good. And so God does good through the imperfect, mixed-up people who actually exist as flesh-and-blood human beings on this earth.
I agree and I wouldn’t want you to take down the article. I am just very wary of celebrity culture in general. Just to add though – in terms of black culture, I am actually black and from that culture as well so speaking as an insider. And trust me the dysfunction, crime, drugs, sexism, over sexuality that artistes like them promote and what is portrayed in the media is NOT authentic black culture. Authentic black culture has been corrupted and made deviant for reasons I won’t get into here. That is not true black culture and many of us are opposed to it and fighting hard against ifrom the insidet, but the popular media only chooses to showcase the crime and dysfunction.
But I definitely agree with your overall point that we are all imperfect and works in progress and God can speak through flawed human beings.
Hi Amanda,
I’m with you on celebrity culture. It’s not my thing. But Annette and I also seek to reach out to people outside of our own particular cultural niche. When we saw Beyoncé’s interview with Oprah, it struck a chord and provided a theme for an article that we hope will be helpful to any Beyoncé and Jay-Z fans who may come across it, not to mention others reading in.
Also, I wasn’t thinking of black culture in general, but of the particular culture out of which Jay-Z came. For a related article, see: “Can Gang Members Go to Heaven? (Is Life Fair?)” Black culture, like other cultures, is not a monolithic thing. It has many layers and varieties, some good and positive, others not so much. The same is true of white culture, Latino culture, and so on. We’re all human beings first.
It’s unfortunate that the media focuses on and sensationalizes the more negative segments of black culture. But that’s what the media does, isn’t it? You can’t look to the media to gain a balanced picture of the world and its people. It’s not so much “fake news” as it is unbalanced and partial news, creating a false picture of the full reality of human society and its various cultures.
Annette and I recently traveled to South Africa, where we visited with leaders and members of our church there, which is headquartered in Soweto. Beforehand, of course, we read all about the rampant violence, carjackings, muggings, and so on in South Africa. It’s all over the news. But what we found when we got there was completely different. We experienced good people who opened their homes and their hearts to us all out of proportion to anything we would ever have expected. Certainly the things reported in the media do happen in South Africa. But they also happen here in the United States. And in every other country around the world. They don’t represent “South African culture” any more than they represent “American culture.” Ditto for what’s reported about “black culture.”